The Independent has a blog. Or blogs. You hadn’t noticed?
Via Greenslade to Martin Stabe and Andrew Grant-Adamson, The Independent has a blog which is so awful (think cheap: think getting a free Typepad account and then possibly forgetting the password, or not reminding people to update it, or possibly not having enough - or any? - machines capable of running an operating system introduced in 2001) that the kindest thing would be to bin them and start again.
In my time there - around 2003, I think, when the Guardian started blogging mildly (via The Online blog, which still exists but doesn’t do anything - Neil? - I did briefly consider doing something (going as far as getting a blogger account, doing one post just to prove it, and halting). And though David Felton, then the web boss, said “Sure, do” I also thought that I wouldn’t get any extra time or money or resources to do it. So I didn’t.
It looks like that great tradition continues…
..oh, I hadn’t seen this Press Gazette interview with Ivan Fallon, who could audition for Canute when panto season rolls around.
The Indy has resisted the newsroom integration efforts announced by The Guardian, The Times and The Daily Telegraph, and won’t be following the other quality papers’ efforts to post some of their material online before it appears in print. “Newspaper journalists are not geared to instant news; it’s not what they do,” says Fallon.
Funny, then, who are all those people on these things we call “wire services”? Or on the TV? That’s pretty instant. What’s different about someone in front of a keyboard who could post to a website or to a printing press? Answer: the printing press takes longer to appear. But once you press “send”, it’s gone.
“Most political stories happen during the day, and our journalists — like most journalists — reflect on them and write something that is more analytical than what you see on breaking news.”
Yes, and they can do that online too.
Readers look for analysis and nuance out of newspaper stories, Fallon insists. Newspapers don’t break stories, and neither do their websites. “I’ve never seen a story broken online. Before radio or TV? I have Sky News on all day,” he says.
Possibly this came out before Jeff Randall and the Telegraph broke the story of Michael Grade going to ITV. Which was online first, TV next, print last. (Ah yes, it was - June 2006. Changed your mind at all, Ivan?)
“You don’t get your news out of newspapers. People haven’t done for quite a few years. We’ve gone one stage further: we don’t put news on the front page because we’re trying to give them something different. Our front page has become our brand, and we think that’s the direction that newspapers are going, what we call ‘viewspapers’.” But despite the “viewspaper” emphasis, the Indy isn’t rushing to embrace online commentary or blogs. “We’re podcasting where we can make money out of it. How do we make money out of doing blogs?
Ah yes, the “podcasting making money”. I hear that a publisher offered to pay some good money to have their author featured on a podcast. Not on merit (ie not chosen by the Indie), but for the money coming in. Tail, dog, wag?
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January 13th, 2007 at 12:49 am
I used to read and enjoy the Independent, since launch in fact, and was really pleased by the ‘compact’ return to relevance. But the rhythmic loss of good writers (even the ones yet to be jejeune) to better salaries, coupled with the lazy mushing of news and editorial – that’s your actual views-paper y’see – leaves me less than globally warmed.
Besides, to acknowledge your point about the Indy’s sclerotic response to online news, home page or front page: a newspaper’s primary function is to deliver what’s what and to comment (separately) on its whattiness in a whatty manner.
The paywall, incidentally, is a crass misjudgement when the writing and research is – currently with few exceptions – so mediocre.
Regards etc
January 13th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
[…] I’m a bit late to this one, with Charles Arthur, Andrew Grant-Adamson, Martin Stabe; and Roy Greenslade all drawing collective gasps and sniffled laughter, but just in case there is anyone interested in the UK media that reads this blog but none of those above… […]
January 16th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Interestingly, the complaints take up most of their technorati links. That’s one helluva online community…
MediaPie
January 17th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Blogs, eh?
I want to insert some comment about the Independent’s ability for keeping up with technology but Charles has already said it for me.
I still remember the day when I wrote an AppleScript to copy some files off a server on to desktop machines to simplify the Notes install process - and got a bollocking. “Your script could have deleted everything on the server!”
Yes, and using a known-to-be-buggy version of Notes on the lowest spec G4 available at the time could impact productivity - but that didn’t bother them.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:30 pm
The Indie has been going downhill for a while. Actually I noticed a striking reduction in accuracy in anything scientific around the time Charles Arthur moved out. Odd that. I’ve been reading it since it was launched - it really seemed to have been made for me in those days, but I think I have to move my subscription to the Grauniad now. If I needed a last straw, the unevaluated propaganda being passed on about GP income and the alleged intentions of the government side negotiators in the last round of contract negotiation would do, but I don’t, it goes on quality and content.
January 21st, 2007 at 10:00 pm
To be honest, Adrian, Steve Connor was doing the science coverage from about 1999, so you shouldn’t have seen any change there; Steve’s still there, and is (for my money) top-flight. Whether he can get the space for worthwhile stories, as he did for RNAi a few years ago (he won an award for that - he’s got quite a big trophy shelf), is a different question.
Dunno about the government/GPs stuff. Haven’t been reading.