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Monday 12 February 2007

Filed under: — Charles @ 5:32 pm

The Independent newspaper prepares to make a great leap sideways, from Macs to PCs

Little birds tell me that the Independent [link added for American readers wondering what this “Indie” thing is] is going to - finally - upgrade its systems, bought in 2000 and which have all this time been running Mac OS 9 (released in 1999). And the upgrade? To PCs which will be running Quark 7 - something of an upgrade from the Quark 4 they’re using now.

I expect Steve will want to chip in here; the fact is that those machines have been long in the tooth and that even when I was there (until 2004) I was agitating from time to time - as were senior production staff - for them to be upgraded to newer Macs that could run OSX (since that was what the IT folk downstairs were running to do various tasks). But no. They never took the chance to build a bridge between OS9 and OSX, even though the graphics people alone would have benefited hugely from it.

Instead whenever they bought new machines, they didn’t even experiment with OSX on the editorial floor. I did, with a nod and a wink from the IT people, installing Panther, and didn’t have any problems. Quite the reverse - while a very weird crashing bug that was either caused by the (unnecessary) antivirus or some strange peculiarity of Word 2000 led to people regularly losing hours’ worth of work, I never lost a thing. Panther was rock solid, if not better. I could connect to all the necessary servers. I could use Office. I could also browse sites that nobody else could. Or indeed can even now.

In fact in the Indie now they have a PC for browsing those mystery sites such as YouTube that you can’t view on OS9 (such as Flash-heavy ones or Ajax-y ones). I wonder how spyware-infested it is by now.

One has to guess that they’re going to be going to XP, since I’d wager Quark hasn’t got a version that runs under Vista. (Goes and checks. Oh, correct and correct. You have to love the wishful thinking of the poster in the second one who says “Quark’s only system requirements for Windows is: Windows Software: * Microsoft Windows XP or later. Vista is later.” Has he never done anything around Quark?)

So that’ll be machines running XP SP2. Oh joy for that. Good luck with the spyware, antivirus, firewalls… which all, as I can attest from a family visit this weekend (which deserves a separate entry) suck up huge amounts of time. The computer might be fast, but the interface ain’t, because it’s coping with all the security software that the IT department will have to put on.

Delighted? I know people who aren’t about it, and are checking where the exits are.

Interesting: which other nationals are on PCs? The Telegraph is. Any others? The Guardian’s on Macs, so is the Express, the Mirror is on Macs.. Times? FT? Anyone know?

[slightly updated with more info and links]

5 Responses to “The Independent newspaper prepares to make a great leap sideways, from Macs to PCs”

  1. Steve Thompson Says:

    I’ve had 62 hits on my site so far today. Compared to the 12 I’ve had so far this year. :-) Thanks for the mention and apologies to everyone for it being blank.

    Sensible IT decisions based around the needs of the business have never been the Independents forte. Saving money by cutting corners - that’s them. Doesn’t surprise me they’re going to PCs. They will not be HT Pentiums though…

    “What’s the cheapest Celeron on the market at the moment? Good. If we buy 300 of them can we get them cheaper?”

  2. One Man & His Blog Says:

    links for 2007-02-13…

    Addicted to Technology! at Climb to the Stars (Stephanie Booth) Are we addicted to technology? Do we really understand what is meant by technology? Do people only mean new technology when they use the term? (tags: addiction technology it lifestyle) “…

  3. Martin Stabe » links for 2007-02-13 Says:

    […] Charles Arthur: The Indie prepares to make a great leap sideways, from Macs to PCs “Little birds tell me that the Independent is going to - finally - upgrade its systems, bought in 2000 and which have all this time been running Mac OS 9. And the upgrade? To PCs which will be running Quark 7 - something of an upgrade from the Quark 4.” (tags: independent quark macintosh newspapers) […]

  4. Paul Guinnessy Says:

    Its a big mistake. We use Quark 6.0 on Windows XP in the office, and I’m amazed we get a magazine out. The number of limitations Windows machines have for DTP is high. Color calibration is still difficult, and there are still occasions in which they have to use my dept’s Mac to convert a windows file to a different windows format because their own machines can’t do it. I wonder how many extra people they are going to hire for IT support…

  5. Charles on… anything that comes along » More little birds on the Independent’s move from Macs to Windows - it’s XP Says:

    […] Some more from the South Quay bunker where The Independent is preparing to move, in April as I hear it, from 1999’s Mac OS9 to 2001’s Windows XP. (Well, perhaps you could argue it’s 2004’s XP SP2. I really hope, for their sake, it’s SP2. SP1 would be a disaster.) That’s seven years’ wait to move forward five years in OS. […]

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